WWI & WWII Relics

First of all, Happy Easter!

I mentioned WWI & II items that I had recently; however, these were not the ones that intended. But, I think they'll do for now. They're two of my favorite pieces that I've found in amongst the forgotten piles of artifacts that sat so long at my grandparent's (Bob & Marguerite Clinton). In all honesty, as with the earlier letter, these are just a small portion of the photos/relics that I want to preserve and/or digitize that we found at the house. I'll have these two in chronological order.

Death Certificate of Corp. Edward Gordon Ponder

This one is fairly explanatory in terms of what it is, and the heading pretty well takes care of that. Whether it's actually his signature or not, I don't know, but it is signed by General John 'Black Jack' Pershing, who was the commander of the AEF during the Great War.

As I've mentioned previously Gordon, as he was called by his family, and was mentioned in the previously published letter on this blog, died of illness, rather than gunshot or any violent means, at the end of Oct. 1918, within a couple weeks of the armistice. Here's a BW photo (courtesy of my new camera) that I took of the certificate.

V-E Day!

This one is even more self-explanatory. Another 'relic' that I found at my grandparents' house. Whether my grandmother (M.E. Thompson Clinton) or great-grandmother (Belle Crenshaw Clinton, one of the wayfarers) kept the paper originally, I do not know, but it was likely one of them who held onto the paper at the end of the European war. Again, in BW.

More to come as I can get things digitized.

AFN

DCC

Vidalia, GA 12 April 2009

I Need Ya for the Harvest Boy . . .

Unfortunately, I've both been busy and forgetful for the last month and a half, but now that we're done w/ the 'busy' season at work, likened perhaps unto harvest season. If you know what I do, you should get the analogy.

That said, I'm hoping to get back to posting more regularly. I need to find a way to hook up the scanner that I've recently acquired, but that could be tricky. Until then, I'll post what I have scanned and type what I can remember. I also need to get to the lineage/Matthew Ch. 1 posting for my grandparents so this connects somehow, but until then. A few pics to suffice.

Memories of the Great War:
From WWI: Found with these pages (letters from Ida Benton Lester Ponder to her sister in 1920) this clipping gave me more information regarding the Ponder side of the family, which I did not have before and to my knowledge no one knew who is now alive. The gist of the story is that Clemmie Ponder Cates (identified as Mrs. John G. Cates in the clipping), the daughter of I.B. Ponder above, was selected among 130 or so mothers of soldiers who died during the Great War to make the trip to France to see the graves of their sons buried there. Recognized as American Gold Star Mothers, the group left in time to get to the site on Memorial Day. The back side of the clipping notes that it is from the June 19, 1933 edition of the Macon Telegraph. It notes that Clemmie wore gold crosses for her son Robert Cates as well as her brother, Gordon, who is mentioned in the aforementioned letters.

It notes that she returned to 131 Appleton Ave, which I presume is in Macon, GA as I have some record of them living there in the 1930 census. If you open the full image, you should be able to read the entirety of the clipping. I'll type the full version of it and repost the typed version soon, but this is a clip from it. I can't even imagine what it must have been like for her as both her brother and her son died within 10 days of each other of illness, not bullets, and both within 2 weeks of the Armistice on Nov. 11, with her son, dying on the very day the Armistice took effect. Here's part of the article:

“‘My boy was 19 when he went,’ the smooth-faced, strong, dark-haired mother recalled. ‘And he was the oldest. He’d been begging to go for a long time, but I just couldn’t give my consent. Finally I did on July 17, for I thought then they were just about to draft the 19-year-olds, and he was so anxious.

‘He became sick at Camp Johnson, and didn’t get well on the way over. They sent him to the base hospital at Brest. We got one little letter dictated to a Red Cross woman saying he’d been a little sick, but that he’d soon be on his feet again. The next thing we heard—we got the telegram saying he was dead.’”


More to come on WWII later. I was going to post a couple of Pa's (Robert H. Clinton, Sr.) WWII memorabilia, but have run short on time. I'll post more with those later.

AFN
DCC
Athens, GA 27 March 2009
Rainy

And We Think We have it Bad - Part IV

Pages 10-12. Part I, Part II, & Part III contain the first 9 pages.

The damage to Pages 11 & 12 comes from having to remove the letter from an adhesive backed photo album page. I would have kept the letter as it was, but I wanted to be able to see the top part of the 12th page and the acid from the album would have eventually destroyed the letter all together.

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our next door neighbor had &[sic] old chicken eating hog in their lot that was eating them[.] it sure provoked me because they wouldn’t do something with that hog[.] their lot is so close. It is impossible to keep them away it ate up nearly all of their chickens but they seem to think more of the hog than they did the chickens[.] I had to shut up what I had left to have a few to eat[.] I wanted to save ½ doz pullets[?] [.] I don’t know of any one who has any pullets to sell[.] they are real high here have to pay 75cts for small frying size. I am not getting a single egg now[.] looks like they never will

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start to laying again. I have about 20 little fall chickens[.] I think they came off last of day [page torn] in Sept. I am proud of ??lus?? [page torn] they will get large enough to eat so early. Am writing Sat P.M. & am by myself so thought it a good time to write[.] Dollye went home with Lillian two weeks ago am expecting them to bring her home about next Sat. She generally spends about three weeks with Lillian it is so far & she don’t go very often[.] I was sorry about little George

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Just being in such a bad fix & hope that ^Essie or Epsie? [carroted in] will enjoy her trip & come back very soon afterward.
Guess I have to stop now havent time to write any more. I have a [tear in paper]gro girl to [illegible 3-4 words][.] she washes dishes sets the table brings in wood & so on. Hope you are getting on as well as when you wrote. I am still feeling very well all but my back have spells with it[.] some times it feels weak nearly all the time[.] I know you are tired reading this excuse bad writing & mistakes & write again as soon as you can
love to all Sister

And that's the letter, such as it is/was. As the letter is today it hangs in my office. As it was, a priceless portrait of 'the way things were' in Middle/South Georgia (depending on who you ask) , and shows that just because 'everyone else' was having a time of it in the 'Roaring 20s' it wasn't necessarily so everywhere. "Everyone said Wall Street fell, but we were so poor we couldn't tell . . ." I've thought about that lyric just about every time I've read through the letter.

In a fit of pre-Christmas 'getting something for myself' (and I suppose for any descendants I may have), I bought a frame in which to put the letter with glass on both sides so that the whole of the letter may be viewed and the letter now hangs in my office. Next up getting the glass that's UV protectant to further protect the letter. But until I can rake up the change it's going to be as it is b/c after pricing, it ain't cheap . . .

Merry Christmas!
AFN
DCC
24 December 2008

And We Think we have it Bad - Part III

Pages 7-9 from the letter dated 13 Nov. 1920, likely written by Ida Benton Lester Ponder.

See part I & part II for first 6 pages and more of an explanation. Below are the scans & text for pages 7-9

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with him. They told him he had indigestion & wrote to his Dr I n Waynesboro that they couldnt do anything for him[.] said it was in his blood, so I dont think he has ever realized what a bad fix he was in. It seems that one trouble right after another comes in our family[.] now we have one consolation if we would think about in[inserted][.] the bible says The Lord chasteneth[sic] those that he loves. Well I will change this sad subject & write about something else. The Boll weevill[sic] is here now & cut crops short so

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you dont hear any thing talked about now but hard times[.] just lots of people didnt make a third of a crop[.] we havent made any thing evey[sic] one of our hands came out in debt not able to pay for what we advance for them[.] cotton is so low every body that can is holding what little they made for a better price[.] we havent sold any[.] I havent bought me one thing but a ginghams dress[.] the merchants are feeling it too[.]they are not doing much business. We are having bad luck on every side this year[.] we lost all our hogs but one with cholera, will have to

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Buy most of our meat & lard next year. Hog cholera went through this county this summer[.] I heard of so many losing their hogs. I have some nice turnips in my garden & some pretty collards. They are the white Georgia collard[.] Some of them looks ^like [carroted in] they are beginning to head up. We dug our potatoes today a week ago made two nice banks which is not as many as we had last winter but it will be plenty for us. Well I didnt get very many of my chickens to eat after all they kept disappearing & found out that

Pg 10-12 to follow

Merry Christmas!
AFN
DCC
24 December 2008

And We think We have it Bad - Part II

Pages 4-6 from Letter dated 13 Nov.1920

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got to die & leave his family. I have had to go ^through[carroted in] with another sad occasion ^lately[carroted in] [.] poor Gordons[sic] remains was burried[sic] here yester-day two weeks ago, we had reg-ular funeral services in the church & it was awfully sad to me but I feel lots better[.] satisfied to know he is burried here at home in our own cemetery & I can visit his grave & plant flowers on it[.] we have a new one started here only about eight or nine graves there. The Government wrote to ^us[carroted in] about two months ago to know if we wanted his body brought home & we decided we would have it brought. you[sic] asked me about Hemans[sic] neck. well

The location of the 'new' cemetery. Now called Rose Dhu Cemetery where Ida Benton Lester, her husband E.E. Ponder, Ruth Ponder Cates (their daughter), Heman Cates (her husband) and Gordon Ponder (all mentioned in this letter) are now buried as well. Scary what you can do w/ technology these days.

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I will tell you just how it started. A while after last Christmas a bump commenced growing kinder on the side of his neck it was under the skin[.] it looked just like a wenn[?] just a bumg under the skin he went on & did’t pay much attention to it but in March it commence forming & hurting so bad he went to the hospital in Augusta & had it taken out & the place all cured up nicely but it wasnt long before a notti-er bump came on his neck and far from where the other one was. So he decided he would go to a specialist in Atlanta[.]

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He went & he told him it was a cancer of the worst type & advised him to go to John[sic] Hopkins hospital in Baltimore as thee best cancer Dr that is known lives there. Well he went & Ruth went with him & the other bump was taken off his neck & it cured up, then in two or three weeks another one came kinder on his side[.] he went back to Baltimore to be treated again[.] they examined him good his stomache & all & found that it was in his stomache & was incurable but they didnt tell him so he was getting so then that every thing he ate disagreed

AFN
DCC
22 December 2008

And We think We have it Bad - Part I

I'll pretty well let the writing that I included with this letter the first time when I transcribed it do the talking/commentary. Below is a letter dated 13 November 1920. Because I want to add a scanned picture of Ida Benton Lester Ponder, the woman whom I believe wrote the letter, I will put the letter up in 4 parts with corresponding transcriptions for each page/scan.

Addendum: This is actually a link to the 'streetview' on google maps that shows the very house from whence this letter was written

Unaddressed letter/no envelope
Written Nov. 13, 1920 in Vidette, GA. (location on google maps) Based on contextual clues it was written by Ida Benton Lester Ponder to her sister Clemmie Lester _____. It is also a possibility that it was written to Clemmie Ponder Cates as she was called ‘Sister’ by her parents (E.E. Ponder & Ida Ponder) and siblings, but contextual clues seem to indicate that it was written by Ida Benton Lester. It is possible that it was never sent or that it was sent and returned later after Ida’s death.

Written on wide-ruled paper, narrow, typical stationary. Yellowed with age in 2007 when I found the letter attached to a card board album page with paste, which resulted in the damage to the eleventh and twelfth pages.

Letter:

Vidette, GA

Nov. 13^th, 1920

Dearest Sister,

Your letter was read about two weeks ago and you know I am always glad to hear from you, will not wait so long to answer this time as I want to tell ^you [carroted in] about Heman we went to see him Tuesday & I really dont[sic] believe the poor fellow can live more than two or three weeks longer. We go to see him every week & he is poorer & weaker every time we go he is getting so weak now he cant hardly talk he is pittyful[sic] to look at

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& dont[sic] seem to realize his condition he talks now about getting well, he dont [sic] retain a thing he eats all comes back back in a little while after he eats. Ruth says she dont know how he has held up as long as he has had been in the bed now 11 weeks and not a soul has waited on him but her[.] it is remarkable how she has kept up[.] She is looking well[.] Heman says she is a good nurse & he didnt[sic] want any body[sic] to wait on him but her[.] I have offered to stay & help her but it[‘]s this way[.] She has two men boarders & hasnt an extra place for any one to sleep says she is obliged to keep them for they are feeding her family[.]

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it is a sad affair words cant express my sympathy for them[.] Heman has always been so devoted to his family[.] I’ve always though if he should be taken from them that Ruth couldnt stand it but I think she is becoming rec-onciled now she knows that he cant[sic] live, he is living on morphine now[.] the Dr learned Ruth how to puncture him he suffers so with his stomach he just has to have it, it almost breaks my heart to know he has . . .

The Heman Cates mentioned in the letter married Ruth Ponder, dau of Ida Benton Lester Ponder & Edwin/Edward Erastus Ponder & sister of Dollye Elizabeth Ponder, Clemmie, & Lillian and Gordon Ponder who is briefly mentioned later in the letter having only recently died during WWI.